They want what you want! Jo and Mal jump back into the ISB and dive deep into the latest episode of 'Andor' (06:11). Later they are joined by Ben Lindbergh to discuss the twisted meeting between him and Dedra, then they take a look at what is going on with his character (38:04). Joanna also sits down with actor Andy Serkis to discuss the compelling character of Keno Loy (1:59:58).

If you would like to email Mal and Joanna about the show, you can reach them at hobbitsanddragons@gmail.com.

Hosts: Joanna Robinson and Mallory Rubin

Guest: Ben Lindbergh

Senior Producer: Steve Ahlman

Social: Jomi Adeniran

Addition Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopal

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'Andor' Episode 9 Deep Dive, Plus Andy Serkis