Karl Marx and Radical Indigenous Critiques of Capitalism
Jun 15, 2023
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In this podcast, Native theorists Vine Deloria Jr., Luther Standing Bear, and Winona LaDuke engage in a dialogue with Marxist ideas. They explore indigenous critiques of capitalism, the significance of cooperative behavior, Karl Marx's concept of labor and human potentialities, the destructive impact of capitalism on the environment, Indigenous oneness with nature, contrasting views of money in Inka society and capitalism, child labor and industrial accidents, the possibility of a dialogue between indigenous traditionalism and Marxism, and the revolutionary potential of indigenous nations.
Indigenous critiques of modernity emphasize the importance of grounded normativity and a living relation to the past.
Marxist conceptualization of capitalism involves the domination of dead labor over living labor and subordination of the future to the demands of capital.
Both Marxism and indigenous critiques target Christianity for promoting disharmony and alienation from nature, advocating for transparency and ethical commitment to harmony.
Indigenous ways of thought reject Western abstraction, emphasizing labor as a rhythmic mediation to become one with nature and advocate for the end of capital.
Deep dives
Tensions between Marxism and indigenous thought
This podcast explores the tensions and resonances between Marxism and indigenous thought, challenging the notion that they are antithetical. It highlights the critiques of the modern, Euro-Bourgeois world shared by native theorists and Marx, emphasizing the importance of understanding indigenous standpoints and their grounded normativity for comprehending their critiques of Western modernity.
Indigenous grounded normativity and relations with land
Indigenous critiques of the modern world, with Western capital at its center, are deeply rooted in a relation to space and land. Indigenous ways of life are characterized by grounded normativity, which involves land-connected practices and longstanding experiential knowledge. Indigenous peoples live and think from the particularity of ancestral homelands, maintaining a living relation to the dead and the past.
Capitalism and the domination of the past
Capitalism, as conceptualized by Marx, is driven by the domination of dead labor over living labor. The past, embodied in capital, exerts control over the present and the future. Fictitious or speculative capital, as well as credit money, represent claims on future production, subordinating the future to the demands of capital. In contrast, indigenous relationality with sedimented history and ancestors demonstrates a living relation to the past, emphasizing reciprocity rather than domination.
Critiquing Christianity and bourgeois ideologies
Both Marxism and indigenous critiques of bourgeois modernity identify Christianity as a central target. They accuse it of promoting an otherworldly perspective, alienating humanity from nature, and perpetuating disharmony. Marx's critique of religion extends to a critique of law and politics, highlighting the need to transcend disharmonic ideologies and restore transparency within society. Indigenous critics similarly challenge the dualistic nature of Christianity and advocate for an ethical commitment to harmony and balance with the natural world.
Indigenous Critiques of Abstraction and Otherworldliness
Indigenous ways of thought emphasize thinking and living in becoming, rather than searching for a fundamental experience of being. They critique Western abstraction and otherworldliness, which detach from the mundane and lack spirit and energy waves.
Labor as Mediation of Oneness with Nature
Marx's concept of labor as transformative and reproducing the contingency of nature critiques Western abstract oneness with nature. Indigenous traditions understand labor as a contingent and rhythmic mediation to become one with nature, rejecting the fear of engaging with the world.
Capital as Impersonal Power and Potential Harmony
Capital, as an impersonal power, dominates and controls human beings, leading to disharmony and exploitation. Indigenous critiques emphasize that the end of capital is essential for humanity to live, and communism represents a universal communalism, a unity premised on the right to difference and a conscious restoration of space.
Nodrada explores the tensions and resonances between Marxism and Indigenous thought, putting the writings of Native theorists such as Vine Deloria Jr., Luther Standing Bear, Winona LaDuke, and many others in dialogue with those of Marx.
Read By: Aliyah
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