BG2 with Bill Gurley, Brad Gerstner & Aaron Levie | Software Valuations, Earnings, AI, Immigration & More | E02
Feb 8, 2024
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Aaron Levie, Box Co-Founder & CEO, joins Brad Gerstner and Bill Gurley in a discussion on software valuations, public markets earnings, AI, legal immigration, and the potential limitations and advancements of AI systems. They also explore the journey of Box, investment in Snowflake, product market fit, CIO decision-making, Google's advertising model, and the use of capital as a weapon of economic destruction.
The traditional search model of Google may face disruption as AI-powered models gain popularity, requiring changes to the user interface and potentially the business model.
Amazon and Microsoft's strong growth in cloud software indicates a potential for further growth in the multi-trillion dollar market, especially with the integration of AI workloads.
The extraneous valuation model in venture capital, driven by non-economic actors like SoftBank, may create a dangerous dynamic in the market and lead to a need for correction.
Deep dives
The challenges of transitioning to AI
Google faces an innovator's dilemma as it transitions from the traditional search model to AI-powered answers and actions. The current advertising-based business model may be at odds with the future of AI. Navigating user behavior and interface changes may be a challenge.
The potential of cloud software growth
Amazon and Microsoft reported strong growth in cloud software, indicating that core workloads are back to prior growth rates. The multi-trillion dollar market still has room for growth, especially with the integration of AI workloads.
Redefining Google's search model
Google's traditional search model may face disruption as AI-powered models like perplexity and chatGPT gain popularity. Shifting to an answer-focused model may require changes to the user interface and potentially the business model.
Concerns over market distortion
Recent investments by Microsoft, Amazon, Nvidia, and Google into big model businesses have raised concerns over market distortion. The FTC has announced an inquiry into the nature of these relationships, which could have implications for the industry as a whole.
The Distortion Effect of Valuations in Venture Capital
There is a distortion effect in venture capital valuations. Non-economic actors, such as SoftBank, are pricing companies at high valuations that do not necessarily correlate with their revenue or performance. This can create a dangerous dynamic in the market and affect the overall perception of valuation. Secondary transactions and the need for financial investors further complicate the situation. Ultimately, there may be a need for a correction in this extraneous valuation model.
The Excitement and Potential of AI
The speaker expresses enthusiasm about the confluence of technologies that make this an extraordinary time for building technology. Specifically, AI is seen as a game-changer in improving productivity and creating value. In the case of Box, AI has the potential to unlock the value of the massive amount of files stored in the platform. The speaker also highlights the experimental stage of AI adoption in most enterprises and the opportunity it presents for both incumbents and startups. However, it is noted that AI adoption may take longer in certain knowledge work areas compared to coding, and the context of workflow transformation is crucial in fully leveraging AI's potential.
Open Source bi-weekly convo w/ Bill Gurley and Brad Gerstner on all things tech, markets, investing & capitalism. This week we are joined by Box Co-Founder & CEO, Aaron Levie. They discussed software valuations, public markets earnings, all things AI and legal immigration. Enjoy another Episode of Bg2.
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