On today’s episode, I talked to Kollen Post about how and why Silicon Valley markets their drones as “battle tested in Ukraine.” We recorded it on Thanksgiving, Jason was busy spending time with his family, and Post and I went down some weird philosophical rabbit holes.

Impromptu drone developers
The Western image of the Ukrainian drone operator
Open source is king
The decentralized nature of Ukrainian society
Fundraising for war
The ignorance of the American people
Trump’s promise: You can forget it
Americans want to be heroes
Palmer Luckey is selling drone piece loot crates
iPhone vs. Linux
Jamming with Github
Onshoring the drone manufacturing process

‘Battle-tested in Ukraine’ — How US drone makers turned Ukraine into a tagline to sell west

Ukraine’s drones have a reputation for low cost. Buntar Aerospace wants to make them boutique

How Palantir Is Using AI in Ukraine

The Anduril merch store

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