Errol Morris discusses his documentary 'The Pigeon Tunnel' which delves into the life and career of John Le Carré. They explore the influence of Le Carré's childhood on his spy novels and the elusive meaning behind his work. The podcast also explores the unique shooting techniques used in the documentary and the contrast in moral compasses between Le Carré and a British spy.
Errol Morris's documentary, 'The Pigeon Tunnel', explores the influence of John Le Carré's childhood experiences on his spy novels, suggesting that his personal biography heavily shapes his literary works.
The film probes the nature of interviews and their connection to storytelling, questioning the existence of a definitive truth and emphasizing the pursuit of knowledge despite its elusive nature.
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The Pigeon Tunnel and the Influence of Personal Biography on John Le Corre's Spy Novels
In this podcast episode, filmmaker Errol Morris discusses his new documentary on Apple Plus, The Pigeon Tunnel, which delves into the life and career of renowned author John Le Corre. Morris highlights the insight that Le Corre's spy novels are heavily influenced by his childhood experiences, particularly the presence of his con man father and his missing mother. The film explores the connection between Le Corre's personal biography and his literary work, suggesting that his novels may be more shaped by his early life than by his actual years spent in British intelligence. Morris sees Le Corre as a master storyteller who weaves parables and moral dilemmas into his narratives, and the documentary serves as a culmination of both Le Corre's career and Morris's own exploration of truth, identity, and the slipperiness of reality.
The Significance of Interviews and the Nature of Truth in The Pigeon Tunnel
During the conversation, Morris and Le Corre discuss the nature of interviews and their connection to storytelling and authorship. Le Corre's question to Morris, 'Who are you?', sets the stage for an exploration of the differences between interviews and interrogations, as well as the quest for objective truth. They ponder whether there is a definitive truth, even if it may be elusive, and emphasize the importance of pursuing understanding and knowledge despite the possibility of never fully grasping the truth. The film, much like Le Corre's work, philosophically examines the blurry line between reality and fiction, challenging the audience to question their own perceptions of truth.
The Pigeon Tunnel as a Multilayered Parable and Reflection on Personal History
The Pigeon Tunnel, both the memoir and the documentary, is seen as a collection of parables and reflections on personal history. Le Corre's story of the pigeons at the casino serves as a metaphor for endless repetition, manipulation, and control. The film utilizes recreations and mirrors to further explore the themes of truth and perception. It also delves into Le Corre's relationship with his father, Rodney, a con man who profoundly impacted Le Corre's life. The film highlights Le Corre's moral compass and his belief in right and wrong, as well as his commitment to truth and his own personal mythology. The Pigeon Tunnel is praised as a profound and masterful exploration of biography, literature, and the existential quest for understanding.
In “The Pigeon Tunnel”, Errol Morris has crafted a career-culminating work. Morris skillfully deploys and redeploys: the revelatory recreations that he has been known for since “The Thin Blue Line”; an interview with a slippery subject that surpasses that even of “The Fog of War” subject Robert McNamara; and the intellectual curiosity on display in “Fast, Cheap, & Out of Control.” He sharpens them all, reflects back on them, and yet throws it all into the pale of “productive ontological uncertainty”.
Errol joins Mike to discuss the life and career of David Cornwell, better known by his pen name, John LeCarré. In Cornwell Morris finds his ultimate subject: an avowed, unrepentant fabulist . At its core, much like the memoir that Cornwell wrote with which the film shares a title, is the insight that his spy novels are maybe even more influenced by his childhood–his con man father, his missing mother–then the few years he spent in the intelligence game. And always, behind both his work as well as Morris’ is the worry–fear? belief? assurance?–that the final room, the ultimate safe, the culminating tunnel that haunts his work is quite bereft of any clarifying meaning.