I wasn’t sure what to expect going into this conversation with Chris Harrison—but I walked away with a deeper respect for a man who’s been through a public firestorm and came out of it more grounded, more thoughtful, and more self-aware.

For nearly two decades, Chris was the host of The Bachelor—a pop culture staple. But we didn’t spend our time rehashing old seasons. Instead, we talked about the real stuff: identity, regret, resilience, and what it means to be publicly misunderstood. Chris opened up about the moment everything changed, how it impacted him personally and professionally, and how he handled the silence that followed.

He talked about therapy, fatherhood, the power of taking ownership, and why losing his job may have been one of the best things that ever happened to him. And through it all, there was no bitterness—just clarity. Chris showed up with humility and honesty, and I think you’ll hear that right away.

This is a conversation about redemption, reinvention, and what happens when the spotlight turns off and you’re left with who you really are.

Chapters:

00:00 – Intro: First impressions and why this conversation matters

02:00 – Life after The Bachelor and learning to let go

06:00 – The 2021 controversy: what happened, and how he handled it privately

12:30 – The weight of silence: losing his voice in the public square

18:00 – Owning mistakes, navigating cancel culture, and why words matter

24:00 – Therapy, humility, and starting the inner work

30:00 – Rebuilding relationships and letting go of the need to be “right”

36:00 – Fatherhood and how his kids saw it all unfold

42:00 – What he lost—and what he found in the quiet

48:00 – Why he never rushed a comeback

53:00 – Launching The Most Dramatic Podcast Ever and finding his own voice

01:00:00 – The highs and lows of hosting The Bachelor

01:08:00 – Fame, pressure, and identity outside the spotlight

01:15:00 – Manhood, grace, and how his definition of success has changed

01:25:00 – Final reflections: peace, purpose, and what’s next

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About Sage:

Sage Steele is a longtime national TV broadcaster and current host of The Sage Steele Show on YouTube and all podcast platforms. From 2007 to 2023, she was a mainstay at ESPN, anchoring SportsCenter and leading coverage of major events like the Super Bowl, The Masters, NBA Finals, and the World Series. She also hosted NBA Countdown on ESPN and ABC from 2013–2017.

Outside of sports, Sage has hosted national broadcasts including the Miss America Pageant, Scripps National Spelling Bee, the Rose Parade, and ABC’s Volcano Live with Nik Wallenda. She’s appeared on The View, Jimmy Kimmel Live, and has been featured in Rolling Stone, Variety, and The Wall Street Journal.

A graduate of Indiana University, Sage began her journalism career in local news before rising to regional and national prominence. She now serves on the boards of the Boys & Girls Clubs of America and The V Foundation for Cancer Research.

She’s a proud mom of three and currently resides in Florida.

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