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EP 215: Never Land / Sever Land - Dirt, Place, Ancestry, & The Making of Culture From the New World with Stephen Jenkinson

Oct 1, 2024

Kimberly Ann Johnson, a collaborator on culture-making, and Stephen Jenkinson, an author of orphan wisdom, dive into the impact of their recent trip to Ireland. They explore ancestral ties, the complexities of grief, and how cultural narratives influence identity. Their conversation touches on the significance of 'dirt' in understanding heritage and the layered wisdom it holds. Listeners will ponder the implications of travel on personal history and the fine line between making culture from and for. This engaging dialogue offers a glimpse into their upcoming live audio series.

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Stephen Jenkinson

Kimberly Ann Johnson

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Quick takeaways

The podcast explores how cultural practices deeply influence individual understandings of birth, death, and belonging, particularly in the context of displacement.

A significant trip to Ireland highlights the connection between ancestry and personal identity, revealing insights into trauma and cultural narratives.

Through discussing intergenerational trauma, the speakers emphasize the profound impact ancestral struggles have on contemporary identities and community belonging.

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Cultural Approaches to Birth and Death

Culture plays a significant role in how people interact with birth and death, particularly under circumstances of displacement. The constant movement and uncertainty people experience can lead to a fragmented understanding of mortality and familial connections. This lack of a shared belief system about death can create distress, particularly for those who feel detached from their ancestral roots. Discussions centered around these themes in the podcast highlight the importance of recognizing and finding meaning in our relationships with the deceased and the cultural practices surrounding death.

Intro

3min

Journey of Ancestry and Belonging

31min

Navigating the Terrain of Grief and Transformation

4min

Exploring Community and Ancestral Connections Through Travel

5min

Guilt, Identity, and the Land

13min

Exploring the True Essence of Wellness in Nature and Community

3min

Community, Connection, and Cultural Reflection

13min

In this episode, podcast producer Jackson Kroopf interviews Kimberly Ann Johnson and Stephen Jenkinson about their upcoming live audio series Never Land / Sever Land - Dirt, Place, Ancestry, and The Making of Culture From The New World. They discuss the impact of their recent trip to Ireland on their ongoing collaboration around culture making in the wake of a global pandemic. They reveal details about Stephen's work-in-progress manuscript and how it relates to orphan wisdom. They consider the implications of the “New World” in contemporary circumstances, the sticky territory of ancestry, and how dirt fits into all of this. A glimpse into a very special offering to come, this conversation gives you a preview into what happens when these two come together to consider the topics and work they’ve devoted so much of their respective writings and teachings to: how to consider (your) place when history is never far past.

Bio

Stephen Jenkinson, MTS, MSW is a worker, author, storyteller, musician and culture activist. In 2010, he founded Orphan Wisdom, a house for learning skills of deep living and making human culture that are mandatory in endangered, endangering times. It is a redemptive project that comes from where he comes from. It is rooted in knowing history, being claimed by ancestry, working for a time he won’t live to see. When not on the road, he makes books, succumbs to interviews, tends to labours on a small farm, mends broken handles and fences, and bends towards lifeways dictated by the seasons of the boreal borderlands.

What you’ll here wonderings about:

What it means for North Americans to visit their ancestral homeland
The consequences of being cultural orphans
Native culture and its relationship to whiteness
What ancestry means to your travel plans
The difference between making culture from and making culture for...
Peter Behrens' book "The Law of Dream"
Stephen's musings on Tobe Hooper and Stephen Spielberg's film Poltergeist
Back to the land / farming fantasies
Dirt and its layered wisdom
Shifts in Stephen's teachings from warnings to descriptors
The Unauthorized history of North America
What it means to always feel like you're running
Why its different to listen to this series live...
What wellness has to do with all this...

You can learn more and sign up for their upcoming class "Never Land / Sever Land: Dirt, Place, Ancestry, and The Makings of Culture From the New World" from October 20th-November 17th at:

https://kimberlyannjohnson.com/never-land/

photo by Mattias Olsson

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