The Meaning Crisis and the Role of Movement Practice with John Vervaeke: EMP Podcast 17
Apr 9, 2019
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In this engaging conversation, cognitive psychologist John Vervaeke delves into the pressing 'meaning crisis' facing modern society, addressing the paradox of increased mental health issues in our era of prosperity. He emphasizes the significance of movement practices, like Taiji Chuan, for fostering connection to self and community. Vervaeke highlights how ancient wisdom, combined with cognitive science, can guide us toward self-transcendence and authentic living. The dialogue encourages a re-evaluation of our relationship with technology and meaningful experiences.
Despite unprecedented societal prosperity, individuals increasingly grapple with mental health issues and a pervasive sense of meaninglessness.
Movement practices like parkour and martial arts are essential for personal transformation, fostering resilience through the confrontation of fears and challenges.
Integrating ancient wisdom traditions with contemporary cognitive science can guide individuals toward overcoming the meaning crisis by fostering deeper community connections.
Deep dives
Understanding the Meaning Crisis
The discussion delves into the contemporary phenomenon known as the meaning crisis, which reflects individuals' struggles to find purpose in their lives. It highlights societal symptoms such as rising anxiety, depression, and addiction, noting that even in an era of unprecedented material abundance, happiness levels are declining. The conversation also references cultural artifacts, such as the movie Fight Club, to illustrate how characters navigate feelings of insignificance in a world that seems to prioritize consumption over fulfillment. Additionally, the current landscape is depicted as one where political disenfranchisement and increasing loneliness exacerbate the overarching sense of meaninglessness.
Types of Knowing and Learning
The podcast emphasizes four types of knowing: propositional, procedural, perspectival, and participatory. Propositional knowledge involves facts and theories, while procedural knowledge relates to skills, such as riding a bike. Perspectival knowing reflects how individuals perceive their surroundings, and participatory knowing encapsulates the connection between an individual and the world. Together, these forms of knowledge underpin meaningful experiences that extend beyond mere factual understanding to include a deeper engagement with life.
The Role of Movement Practices
Movement practices, such as parkour and martial arts, are discussed as vital tools for personal transformation and development. These practices push individuals to confront fear and engage with challenges in their environment, thereby fostering growth and resilience. The relationship between physicality and cognitive development is highlighted, asserting that enhancing movement capabilities can lead to broader cognitive and emotional benefits. This connection underlines the argument that fostering physical skills can enrich one's overall capacity for insight and adaptation to life's complexities.
Flow States and Their Significance
The concept of flow is examined as a state of heightened engagement where individuals find themselves fully immersed in their activities, resulting in feelings of satisfaction and accomplishment. Flow states require a balance between skill level and challenge, fostering an environment where self-deception is minimized and authenticity prevails. The podcast warns that while flow states can enhance well-being, they can also be manipulated by modern technology, leading to superficial engagement rather than meaningful interaction. The critical takeaway is that fostering genuine flow experiences comes from establishing authentic relationships with physical practices and the environment.
Self-Transcendence and Cultivating Wisdom
The discussion emphasizes the importance of self-transcendence as a path to overcoming the meaning crisis, positing that individuals must engage in practices that encourage personal growth and connection with others. This involves recognizing life's developmental challenges rather than viewing problems merely as obstacles to solve. Traditional spiritual teachings and cognitive science converge to provide frameworks for navigating self-transcendence through practices that cultivate wisdom and compassion. As individuals reclaim deeper connections with themselves and their environment, they position themselves to contribute meaningfully to their communities.
Integrating Ancient Wisdom with Modern Life
The conversation advocates for the revival of ancient wisdom traditions such as Buddhism and Taoism, alongside contemporary cognitive science, as a means of addressing the meaning crisis. By extracting valuable practices from these traditions, individuals can cultivate a modern understanding of spirituality without adhering strictly to supernatural claims. The podcast stresses the necessity of embedding these practices in daily life, connecting people with their environment and each other, fostering a sense of community. This holistic approach seeks to reintroduce a sense of sacredness into experiences, emphasizing the relational aspects of existence.
The society we live in today is the safest and most prosperous society that has ever existed on the planet. The likelihood of dying due to illness, murder, or starvation have dramatically plummeted in the last 100 years. More people are being lifted out of abject poverty now than ever before, while the everyday technologies we hold in our hands grant us the full extent of human knowledge and entertainment with just the tap of a finger.
Yet, there’s a problem.
Anxiety, depression, PTSD, adolescent suicide, and many other mental health ailments have skyrocketed in the last decade. In this age of prosperity, humans are feeling more disconnected from themselves and their communities, more detached from the natural world, and are having incredible difficulty finding a sense of meaning in their lives.
This week on the Evolve Move Play Podcast we are very excited to have with us John Vervaeke, a cognitive psychologist/scientist at the University of Toronto who has made it his mission to understand and remedy the meaning crisis; and it just so happens that the way we look at our movement practice may play a key role in developing our ability to transcend the bullshit and find the meaning we are striving for in life.
So grab a pad and pen, sit back, and get ready to take a trip into the realm of our cognitive psychology to see how the very mechanisms that make us susceptible to bullshit also provide us the ability to transcend ourselves, tap into flow states, and maybe even find enlightenment while we're at it.
TOPICS COVERED:
00:00 - Intro
02:12 - Interview Start
03:19 - The Meaning Crisis
08:44 - The Many Ways We Learn
14:36 - Relevance Realization
25:30 - JV's Core Points
30:18 - Bullshit
36:13 - Connection & Coherence
41:06 - The Death of God and Self Trancendance
45:40 - Updating our Systems
52:33 - The Role of Movement Practice
01:07:43 - "Don't tell me what you believe, tell me what you practice"
01:11:28 - Reclaiming Sacredness
01:18:38 - Flow, Nutrition v. Stimulation
01:25:38 - Modal Confusion
01:32:13 - Hope
01:35:16 - Resources and Book List
JOHN'S BOOK LIST:
“Zombies in Western Culture: A 21st Century Crisis” - Chris Mastropietro, Filip Miscevic, John Vervaeke
"What is Ancient Philosophy?" - Pierre Hadot
"Platonic Mysticism" & "Perennial Philosophy" - Arthur Versluis
"The Kyoto School: An Introduction" - Robert Carter
"Religion and Nothingness" - Keiji Nishitani
"Flow" - Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi
"Trying Not to Try: The Ancient Art of Effortlessness and the Surprising Power of Spontaneity" - Edward G. Slingerland
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Thanks a lot everyone! Happy moving!
-The EMP Team
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