The Dispatch Podcast
Civil War in Trumpworld | Interview: Jonathan Karl
Nov 14, 2023
Jonathan Karl, author of Tired of Winning, discusses the chaos and factional warfare within Trumpworld, Bannon gossip, dangers of 2024, and reporting on Trump. They explore changing dynamics in Trumpworld, contradictions in individuals' public statements, and Trump's focus for his 2024 campaign. They also reflect on the Republican party's current state and doubts about the speaker becoming the nominee again.
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Quick takeaways
- Donald Trump's current mindset is characterized by a divorce from reality, as he believes in conspiracy theories and conveys dark and sinister messages in his speeches.
- The traditional and policy-focused nature of recent Republican debates contrasts sharply with Donald Trump's campaign centered around retribution and revenge, highlighting the potential danger of his candidacy.
Deep dives
The Evolution of Jonathan Carl's Trump Books
Jonathan Carl reflects on the process and evolution of writing his Trump books. He discusses the original conception of his latest book and how it changed during the reporting process, moving from a focus on Trump's downfall to his unexpected political comeback.
