Zibby is joined by two-time world champion debater Bo Seo to talk about his first book, Good Arguments: How Debate Teaches Us to Listen and Be Heard. Bo shares his belief that quieter people make the best debaters, why he was originally hesitant to write this book in the first person, and his top tips for preventing a conversation from becoming an argument. Bo also reveals to Zibby that he was a Schwarzman Scholar (Zibby's dad even blurbed his book!) and the two discuss what he is considering doing next in his career.

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