Marc Andreessen of Andreessen Horowitz sits down with Erik Torenberg and his Moment of Zen co-hosts Dan Romero and Antonio Garcia Martinez to discuss AI, religion, San Francisco politics, Eric Voegelin, and life extension. Subscribe to Moment of Zen: https://link.chtbl.com/moz

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LINKS:

Check out Upstream's first interview with Marc, about Marc's Intellectual Education :

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0bYfnuju3PhHFtSGgiMmoz?si=ecLDCrn_TLaYa7Bh8Q50qg

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/marc-andreessen-on-his-intellectual-journey-the-past/id1678893467?i=1000605668194

Marc Andreessen, Fighting https://pmarca.substack.com/p/fighting

Marc Andreessen, Why AI Will Save The World. https://pmarca.substack.com/p/why-ai-will-save-the-world

Eric Voegelin, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Voegelin

Book: Regime Change by Patrick J. Deneen https://www.amazon.com/Regime-Change-Toward-Postliberal-Future/dp/0593086902

TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Episode preview

(02:30) The evolution of human entertainment from epic poetry to NPC Tiktoks

(07:50) Violence is a choice

(12:00) True democracy mandates military service as a virtue

(16:05) Sponsor: NetSuite

(17:22) Can San Francisco be fixed?

(28:03) Marc's empirical argument for AI

(31:45) Where Sam Harris gets it wrong

(35:35) Eric Voegelin's concept of Immanetizing the Eschaton

(41:40) What happens to religion after AI

(48:54) What would Nietzsche say?

(49:44) LLMs are already the subject of a religious war

(53:28) What comes after liberalism

(01:03:03) Based on Zuck's recent PR success, are alpha males back?

(01:07:23) Men’s tailoring and the stripping of masculinity

(01:09:50) Is Twitter’s influence the real world? Alana Newhouse on MOZ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmgtPetHBVw&t=349s

(01:13:25 ) Is Left vs Right the central conflict of our time?

(01:18:30) Life extension

TWITTER:

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@eriktorenberg (Erik)

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