Henry Kerr, Economics editor at The Economist, and Tom Gardner, Horn of Africa correspondent, delve into the pressing global shift towards protectionism threatening economic stability. They discuss the fragile peace in Ethiopia post-conflict, the challenges faced by Tigrayan refugees, and the role of Eritrean troops. Additionally, they explore the dual narrative of narco corridos in Mexico, examining its portrayal of crime alongside themes of loyalty and hard work. The conversation captures the complexity of geopolitical tensions and cultural intersections.