Megyn Reveals Her Candace and Erika Backstory, and Disturbing New Rob Reiner Son Details, with Ruthless | Ep. 1214

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Dec 16, 2025

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Comfortably Smug

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Josh Holmes

Megyn Kelly shares her behind-the-scenes role in the meeting of Candace Owens and Erika Kirk, addressing her critics about the timing of her involvement. Josh Holmes and Comfortably Smug from the Ruthless podcast delve into a revealing Vanity Fair profile of Susie Wiles, discussing media bias against conservatives and its implications. They also cover the tragic story of Rob and Michelle Reiner, exploring addiction, fame, and familial struggles, before shifting to the ongoing situation surrounding the Brown University shooting and police response concerns.

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Framing Turns Candid Detail Into Chaos

The Vanity Fair profile of Susie Wiles framed routine White House candidness as chaos and produced damaging pull-quotes.
That framing undercuts factual context and amplifies perceived division in the administration.

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Words From Aide Can Derail Legal Cases

Susie Wiles' quoted remark about Letitia James risks undercutting legal proceedings by portraying prosecutions as political retribution.
Public comments from close aides can have real-world legal consequences for high-profile cases.

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Renovations As Legacy, Not Vanity

The hosts argued a developer-president can legitimately improve White House facilities for future administrations.
Presenting renovations as legacy-building reframes criticism as constructive stewardship.

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Megyn Kelly opens the show by discussing her behind-the-scenes role in the circumstances leading to Candace Owens and Erika Kirk meeting in person, reveals how she's been talking with Erika and Candace for weeks privately, addresses her critics who wanted her to weigh in earlier, and more. Then Josh Holmes, Comfortably Smug, Michael Duncan, and John Ashbrook, the hosts of the Ruthless Podcast, join to discuss the new bombshell Vanity Fair profile of Trump Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, what it reveals about the Trump administration, Wiles’ taking shots at Pam Bondi and JD Vance, the bias revealed from the reporter, the photos used in Vanity Fair’s profile that reveal the bias, the way people on the right are often unfairly portrayed in the corporate press, shocking new details about the murders of Rob and Michelle Reiner, their son Nick's behavior in the hours before the murder, the tragedy and struggles of drug addiction and fame, the darkness of Hollywood, lessons parents can take from the tragic Rob Reiner story, the Brown University killer still on the loose, the lack of police action in locating the suspect, and more.

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