The Andrew Klavan Show Friendly Fire: Gavin for President, Greenland for Sale
Jan 16, 2026
The discussion heats up as the team analyzes whether Gavin Newsom could be the Democratic nominee in 2028. They dissect his rhetorical tactics and recent shifts to appeal to moderates. Matt Walsh sparks debate on civil rights for white people and previews his documentary on the legacy of slavery. The panel also tackles the curious desire to acquire Greenland, weighing its strategic value against legal and historical considerations. Memes and political perception take center stage, illustrating their impact on candidate electability.
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Two-Hour Interview With Newsom
- Ben Shapiro described his two-hour interview with Gavin Newsom at the Governor's Mansion and called the residence surprisingly small.
- He said Newsom is friendly off-camera and more candid than in public, illustrating politician demeanor contrasts.
Newsom's Rhetorical Strategy
- Gavin Newsom projects moderation to win moderates while courting radicals with rhetoric Ben Shapiro observed during a sit-down interview.
- He shifts blame to local officials and misdirects on policy to avoid accountability, according to Ben Shapiro.
In-Person Politics Vs. Camera
- Politicians tend to appear better in person than on camera, Ben Shapiro observed from experience.
- That can make campaign optics deceptive versus policy reality, he warned.