What is “the matter with things”? In conversation with Iain McGilchrist
Nov 16, 2021
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Iain McGilchrist, an esteemed author known for his insights on the divided brain's influence on Western thought, shares captivating ideas with Nick Spencer. They discuss the clash between materialism and a rich understanding of existence. McGilchrist emphasizes how the left and right hemispheres of the brain shape our perception and consciousness. The conversation also explores the evolving nature of truth and the importance of experiential knowledge over mere facts. Listeners are invited to reflect on what it truly means to know and understand.
The podcast emphasizes the importance of the divided brain, where the left hemisphere's detail-oriented focus contrasts with the right hemisphere's holistic awareness, shaping our reality and experiences.
It explores the nature of truth as an 'unconcealing' process that requires considering both parts and wholes, moving beyond reductionist views to embrace the complexity of existence.
Deep dives
The Divided Brain and Attention
The concept of the divided brain is explored, highlighting the necessity for creatures to adopt two distinct types of attention to survive. This duality manifests in humans as the left hemisphere offering focused, detail-oriented attention, while the right hemisphere provides a broad, contextual awareness of the environment. This difference in attention shapes the way individuals experience the world, leading to fragmented perceptions from the left hemisphere versus a holistic understanding from the right. Ultimately, how one attends to the world profoundly influences their experience and interpretation of reality.
Understanding Truth in a Complex World
The podcast delves into the philosophical implications of truth, moving beyond simplistic notions of truth as purely factual. It introduces the idea of truth as a process of 'unconcealing,' emphasizing that understanding requires the removal of falsehood through exploration. This perspective contrasts with reductionist views that attempt to understand the world by breaking it into parts, suggesting instead that both parts and wholes must be considered to grasp the complexity of reality. The interplay of empiricism and personal experience becomes crucial in shaping a nuanced understanding of truth, reflecting the limitations of purely theoretical knowledge.
The Nature of Existence and Consciousness
The discussion turns to existential questions about the nature of the cosmos and the human experience, particularly focusing on the concept of the divine. It emphasizes the importance of approaching the topic of God with caution, recognizing that language can often limit understanding and lead to misinterpretations. By exploring the divine through a lens of experience rather than strict definitions, a more profound identity of the sacred is suggested, one that requires personal engagement and connection with reality. In this context, creativity and emotional intelligence, especially through music and the arts, become vital avenues for experiencing the transcendent.
Nick Spencer speaks to Iain McGilchrist about materialism, truth, humanity, and God.
Iain McGilchrist rose to public prominence with his book 'The Master and His Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World'. Now, in his long–awaited follow up ‘The Matter with Things’, he develops his ideas about the divided brain into a remarkably detailed and comprehensive vision of reality, “a whole philosophy – … [with] new answers to the questions of what the world is and who we are.”
Nick Spencer talks to him about materialism, truth, humanity, and God.
Listen to our previous episode with Iain McGilchrist here.
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