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Outrage + Optimism: The Climate Podcast

276. Action On Plastic Pollution with Ellen MacArthur

Dec 5, 2024
Ellen MacArthur, a world record-breaking sailor and founder of the Ellen MacArthur Foundation, joins the discussion to tackle the pressing issue of plastic pollution. They explore the recent challenges surrounding the global plastics treaty negotiations and the need for decisive international action. The conversation covers the critical role of the private sector in addressing this crisis and the potential of innovative recycling technologies. By emphasizing circularity and raising public awareness, they highlight paths toward a sustainable future.
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Quick takeaways

  • The recent failure to reach an agreement on the global plastics treaty highlights the complex interplay between economic interests and environmental responsibilities.
  • Ellen MacArthur underscores the private sector's vital role in driving sustainable practices, advocating for stable regulations to support the transition to a circular economy.

Deep dives

Setbacks in Global Plastics Treaty Negotiations

Recent negotiations for a global treaty on plastics, known as the UN Plastics Treaty or INC5, concluded without reaching a collective agreement, marking a significant setback after two years of discussions. The negotiations highlighted the profound complexity in addressing the multifaceted plastic issue, which is rooted in a multi-billion dollar industry that continues to harm the environment. A central point of contention was the failure to find consensus on whether the treaty should address plastic production alongside plastic pollution, with various countries divided on their approach. This stagnation underscores the challenges of achieving a cohesive global agreement as many nations grapple with balancing economic interests against environmental responsibilities.

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