This week on The Audit Podcast, we're joined by returning guest Jason Mefford, audit leader advisor and founder of the Audit Leader Forum.

Jason shares what it really means to have "real" conversations as an internal audit leader—and why authenticity, not ego, matters most. We talk through the situations where tough conversations come up most often, including with the board, the C-suite, executives, and staff.

He also breaks down practical advice for navigating difficult discussions and introduces the five areas of leadership audit leaders need to focus on as they move into senior roles.

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Timecodes:

4:06 – What it means to be a "real" CAE

7:56 – How to have a "real" conversation

18:23 – Four scenarios where a real conversation is necessary

25:17 – Building confidence as a leader

30:33 – Dealing with confidence challenges

36:47 – Five key areas of leadership

45:38 – Final thoughts

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