#340 - Mark Kosoglow, CEO of Operator - on critical thinking in sales

This podcast interview focuses on the entrepreneurial journey to transform toxic sales automation. My guest is Mark Kosoglow, CEO of Operator. Mark is a tech entrepreneur on a mission. A big mission. He's a sales expert who played a crucial role in helping scale Outreach from zero to over $230 million in revenue in just 8-years.  Being part of the rising growth of sales automation, Mark realizes how too much automation and the mantra of Growth at all Costs has wrecked outbound. It's created a massive problem, which he refers to as ‘The Great Ignore.’ This inspired the idea of founding an operator in April 2024.  Their mission is to make outreach more human, insightful, and valuable for both sellers and buyers. And this inspired me, and hence I invited Mark to my podcast. We explore how  The Great Ignore has not only created a sales execution problem for all of us - but has also fueled a much larger Societal problem. He shares a masterclass on the art of what effective sales is really all about. He elaborates on what he's done differently to build rapid traction - with buyers that stay and become fans from the start. Last but not least, he talks about his lessons learned in harmonizing work-life priorities. Here's one of his quotes "Most platforms, good advice is the antithesis of how they create revenue. So if I'm like a ZoomInfo or someone like that, I make money by people buying more accounts and more contacts. Therefore, for me to suggest something that would require less contacts and less companies would be the antithesis of what I'm supposed to be doing, which is growing my business." During this interview, you will learn four things: What sales skills to home in on to succeed in the evolving sales landscape  How he's staying sane, flexible and performing better in the crazy world of building a startup in a market that's overwhelmingly crowded.  How his Waitlist grew to 1,500 people within 24 hours of announcement. How building a personal brand is of value to any sales to stand out - not only top management. For more information about the guest from this week: Mark Kosoglow Website: Operator Subscribe to the Daily SaaS Reflection Get my free, 1 min daily reflection on shaping a B2B SaaS business no one can ignore. Subscribe here Yes, it’s actually daily. And yes, people actually stay subscribed (Just see what peer B2B SaaS CEOs say) My promise: It’s short. To the point. Inspiring. And valuable. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices