

HEATED SIT DOWN with Sammy Gravano & Michael Franzese - Mafia States Of America
Dec 1, 2021
Sammy 'The Bull' Gravano, a former mobster infamous for his crimes and cooperation with the authorities, joins Michael Franzese, a former mobster turned legitimate businessman. They dive into intense reflections on loyalty and betrayal, recounting their tangled pasts in the Mafia. Heated confrontations unveil their complex histories, especially their ties to notorious figures. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of authentic communication as they navigate misunderstandings and prepare for their upcoming project, 'Mafia States of America.'
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Podcast Origin
- The podcast began as a smaller project with an introduction to Michael Franzese by Bill McIntosh.
- After interviewing Franzese, the interview gained millions of views and led to a meeting with Sammy Gravano.
A Rare Sit-Down
- Mario Aguilar emphasizes the rarity of a sit-down of this magnitude in Mafia history.
- He highlights the quality, unscripted nature, and real-life conversation between two of the most notorious figures.
Initial Meeting and Expectations
- Bet-David recalls the initial meeting with Gravano and Franzese, noting the high expectations for the project.
- He asks about their initial expectations and the outcome of the meeting, prompting discussion of the ensuing tension.