In this episode of Kantar's Future Proof Podcast, Dr Nicki Morley sits down with Anna MacDonald from Guinness to unravel the success behind the brand and how innovation played a key role in their recent win as Marketing Week's Brand of the Year.🏆

Hear about how Guinness embodies their core brand values (channelling the founder's vision is still very much essential!) to build quality commitment and meaningful difference, especially with innovations such as Nitrosurge and Guinness 0%. Anna also provides some sage advice to listeners around the challenges of innovating with such a well-known brand.

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