Responding To The Cessationist Documentary Part #1
Sep 28, 2023
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In this podcast, the Remnant Radio team responds to the arguments presented in the documentary 'Cessationist'. They explore the multifaceted purposes of miracles in the Bible, discuss the debate between cessationism and continuationism, and highlight the foundational role of apostles and prophets in the church. They also address accusations made by cessationists against continuationists and explore the question of unity between the two groups.
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The podcast challenges the belief that miracles and sign gifts were limited to specific periods of time, citing numerous examples of miracles occurring outside of those periods throughout the Bible.
The argument that the apostles' unique authority and the power of the Holy Spirit validate the closed canon is refuted by the ongoing miracles and prophetic activity recorded in the New Testament.
The claim that the apostles' involvement in authorizing and validating the Scriptures closed the canon is flawed, as the canonization process occurred long after the apostolic era.
The podcast emphasizes the need for a comprehensive examination of the biblical text to understand the continuity of miraculous events throughout history and refute the notion of a closed canon.
Deep dives
The Three Arguments Regarding Sign Gifts of the Apostles
In this podcast episode, the speaker discusses three arguments made by cessationists regarding sign gifts of the apostles. The first argument centers around the belief that there are only three specific periods in history where miracles and sign gifts took place. However, this is refuted by numerous instances of miracles and supernatural events occurring outside of those periods. The second argument asserts that the apostles had unique authority and that the canon is closed because their ministry was marked by the power of the Holy Spirit. Yet, this argument ignores that the book of Acts and the writings of the New Testament contain numerous examples of miracles and prophetic activity beyond the scope of the apostles. The third argument is that the canon of Scripture is closed because the apostles had a special role in authorizing and validating the writings. However, this overlooks the fact that the canon was not officially recognized or established until centuries later. These arguments highlight the lack of biblical support for cessationism and the importance of examining the scriptural text objectively.
Exposing False Notions of the Closed Canon
This podcast episode challenges the false notion of the closed canon based on three arguments put forward by cessationists. The first argument claims that miracles and sign gifts were limited to three specific periods of time, but this is debunked by numerous instances of miracles occurring outside of those periods throughout the Bible. The second argument suggests that the apostles' unique authority and the ministry of the Holy Spirit validate the closed canon, yet this disregards the ongoing miracles and supernatural events recorded in the New Testament. The third argument posits that the apostles' involvement in authorizing and validating the writings of Scripture closes the canon, but this fails to acknowledge that the canonization process occurred long after the apostolic era. By exposing these false notions, the podcast emphasizes the need for a comprehensive examination of the biblical text in order to understand the continuity of miraculous events throughout history.
Challenging the Notion of a Closed Canon
In this podcast episode, cessationist arguments regarding the closed canon are challenged. The first argument claims that miracles and sign gifts only occurred during three specific periods, but this is refuted by numerous instances of miracles throughout the Bible that do not fit within those periods. The second argument states that the apostles' unique authority and the power of the Holy Spirit validate the closed canon, but this overlooks the ongoing miracles and prophetic activity found in the New Testament. The third argument suggests that the apostles' involvement in authorizing the Scriptures closed the canon, but this overlooks the fact that the canon was not officially recognized until centuries later. Through these arguments, the podcast highlights the flawed reasoning behind the notion of a closed canon and stresses the importance of a comprehensive understanding of the biblical text.
Debunking False Arguments for a Closed Canon
This podcast episode debunks false arguments put forward by cessationists regarding the closed canon. The first argument claims that miracles and sign gifts only occurred in three specific periods, but this is contradicted by numerous instances of miracles throughout the Bible that occurred beyond those periods. The second argument suggests that the apostolic authority and the ministry of the Holy Spirit validate the closed canon, ignoring the ongoing miraculous events recorded in the New Testament. The third argument asserts that the apostles authorized and validated the canon, closing it, without considering that the canon was not officially established until much later. By exposing these false arguments, the podcast emphasizes the need for a careful examination of the biblical text to understand the continuity of miraculous activities throughout history.
There were more apostles than just the 12
The podcast episode discusses the presence of apostles other than the 12 in the New Testament. It highlights that individuals like Paul, Barnabas, and Titus were also recognized as apostles. The episode mentions that there were variations in the number of apostles named in the New Testament, ranging from 15 to 20. It emphasizes that apostleship extended beyond the original 12 and continued to exist within the early church.
The foundation of the church and the role of apostles and prophets
The podcast explores the concept of the foundation of the church and the role of apostles and prophets in establishing it. It argues that the foundation laid by apostles and prophets does not solely refer to the scriptures or the writing of the New Testament. Instead, it suggests that apostles and prophets played a unique role in revealing the mystery of Gentile inclusion and the unity of Jews and Gentiles in the church. The episode contends that the foundation period of the church was distinct, but apostles and prophets continued to have an equipping ministry within the church even after the revelation of the mystery.
Interpreting Ephesians 2:20 and the cessationist view
The podcast challenges the cessationist view that Ephesians 2:20 signifies a complete end to the ministry of apostles and prophets. It argues against the notion that the term 'apostles' and 'prophets' in this verse exclusively refers to a first-century phenomenon limited to the establishment of the church. Instead, the episode suggests that the verse should be looked at within the broader context of Ephesians, emphasizing the ongoing equipping ministry of apostles and prophets in the church. It also criticizes cessationists for using traditional interpretations that do not align with the author's intent and for ignoring other passages that imply the continuation of gifts until the return of Christ.
Responding To The Cessationist Documentary Part #1
Are the Charismatic gifts real? Speaking in tongues, prophesying, healing, and raising the dead – do these phenomena exist? Charismatic and Pentecostal Christians firmly believe in their authenticity, viewing them as miraculous occurrences. The new documentary "Cessationist" boldly asserts that they have ceased. Under the direction of Les Lanphere, "Cessationist" attempts to dismiss modern practices of spiritual gifts using speculation, church tradition, and human reasoning. Fortunately, the Word of God directly contradicts their confident assertions.
Tune in this Wednesday to watch the Remnant Radio team respond to cessationist arguments put forth by cessationists such as Nathan Busenitz, Tom Pennington, Steven J. Lawson, Sam Waldron, Jonathan Master, and Phil Johnson in this first installment of our "Cessationist" review. We'll address three key arguments: 1) The Authentication Argument, 2) The Cluster Argument, and 3) The Foundations Argument of Ephesians 2:20. It's worth noting that these are topics we've covered before. However, it seems the cessationist individuals failed to engage with any continuationist arguments during their two-hour documentary!
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