Beyond Skepticism The Psychology of Innate Health | Dr. Catherine-Gray & Dr. McGinty
Oct 6, 2025
Dr. Jeanne Catherine-Gray, a researcher and co-founder of Innate Health Research, shares her journey from mental health struggles to advocating for the impactful Three Principles. Dr. Anita McGinty, CEO with a psychology background, discusses the challenge of measuring transformational change in mental health. They delve into the need for neutrality in research, the complexities of who benefits from these insights, and examine compelling data showing reduced anxiety and improved well-being. Their conversation navigates the balance of simplicity versus depth in understanding innate health.
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Personal Recovery Through Understanding Thought
- Dr. Jeanne Catherine-Gray described her long struggle with complex PTSD and numerous therapies before the Three Principles changed her life.
- She credits an understanding of how thought works with freeing her from an abusive relationship and becoming her own ally.
Measure The Mechanism, Not The Label
- Critics said the Three Principles were spiritual and unmeasurable, but Jeanne argued that if a source exists in everyone it should be measurable.
- This motivated developing research tools to quantify the mechanism behind reported changes.
Ask Mechanism-Focused Questions
- Design survey questions to probe underlying mechanisms, not program language or rituals.
- Ask about resilience, anxiety, depression and perceptions to capture psychological change reliably.
