The NPR Politics Podcast Jack Smith defends Trump investigations and Trump backs off Greenland threat
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Jan 23, 2026 A public hearing where a special counsel calmly defends two high-profile indictments and the potential witnesses he would have called. Discussion of a sudden shift in rhetoric after a new Greenland framework was announced and what pulled back a looming threat. Exploration of the diplomatic fallout with Europe and the curious new Board of Peace proposal.
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Smith Defends His Investigations Calmly
- Jack Smith testified calmly and defended both indictments against Donald Trump.
- He said he believed a jury would have convicted Trump beyond a reasonable doubt.
Republican Witnesses Would Have Been Central
- Smith said his star witnesses in the election-interference case would have been Republicans who supported Trump.
- That meant key testimony would have come from figures like Mike Pence and Brad Raffensperger.
Prepare For Possible Retribution
- Expect potential retribution from the White House and prepare for legal and security consequences.
- Do not be surprised if targets of the investigations face efforts like revoked clearances or counterprosecutions.