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Trace Mayer - Why Bitcoin Will Outlive Nations

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Sep 8, 2025

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Trace Mayer

Trace Mayer, an early Bitcoin investor and advocate for monetary sovereignty, dives into the journey from gold to Bitcoin. He discusses the critical role of 'proof of keys' in achieving financial independence and the philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin culture. Mayer addresses the block size wars as pivotal moments that strengthened Bitcoin and examines its evolution as a store of value. He passionately explains how embracing Bitcoin can lead to true monetary sovereignty and reshape our understanding of wealth in modern society.

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Why Bitcoin Is Tangible

Mayer argues Bitcoin is tangible because its reality is rooted in mathematics and proof-of-work, not corporeal atoms.
He frames Bitcoin as 'precious numbers' that enable digital scarcity and value transfer over communication channels.

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Hardness Changes Geopolitics

High stock-to-flow and cryptographic protection make Bitcoin a uniquely hard form of money compared with physical gold.
That hardness changes the economics of violence and the cost of protecting wealth globally.

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Money, Time Preference, And Family

Money and family interact through time preference: sound money supports long-term family planning and civilization-building.
Mayer links lower time preference to stable stores of value that enable intergenerational wealth transfer.

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The Evolution of Bitcoin: Key Contributors and Innovations

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Embracing Monetary Sovereignty

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In this episode, I chat with Trace Mayer, early Bitcoin investor and the mind behind the Seven Network Effects, about monetary sovereignty and the ideas that shaped Bitcoin culture. We dive into his rabbit-hole journey from gold to Bitcoin, debates from the block size wars, why “proof of keys” still matters, and how time preference and family tie into sound money.

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––– Chapters –––

00:00 - Intro

01:18 - Trace’s rabbit-hole origins

04:00 - Digital gold currencies & early “sound money” online

11:24 - Austrian deep dive: Mises, Rothbard & building a “proof-of-work” mind

13:31 - When the dots clicked: entering Bitcoin as a monetary-sovereignty maxi

18:21 - Bitcoin at 25¢: early evangelism, Keiser/Schiff, Ron Paul trail

21:10 - “Tangible, not corporeal”: precious numbers vs precious atoms

28:18 - Stock-to-flow & Bitcoin’s hardness argument (early public mentions)

32:01 - Money & family: time preference, children, and society’s horizon

38:45 - Nations, gold repricing, and why the U.S. advantage may persist

43:20 - Inside the Blocksize Wars: uncertainty, secession & antifragility

55:09 - Is Bitcoin a store of value?

58:29 - Proof of Keys: origin story, purpose & January 3rd culture

1:00:56 - The Seven Network Effects

1:05:01 - Global adoption, tax code, and Bitcoin’s persistence

1:07:12 - “Bitcoin changes you” & personal sacrifices

1:20:47 - Lessons from WWII & proof of work in life

1:22:05 - Closing thoughts

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