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The Wright Show

Mutually Assured AI Malfunction (Robert Wright & Dan Hendrycks)

Mar 5, 2025
Dan Hendrycks, Director of the Center for AI Safety and a key figure in AI research, dives into the urgent topics of his new paper, "Superintelligence Strategy." He discusses the chilling concept of mutually assured AI malfunction and its ties to global tensions, particularly between the U.S. and China. The conversation examines how America's chip war might worsen conflicts over Taiwan and the pressing need for international governance to mitigate AI risks. Hendrycks emphasizes collaboration to navigate the complex geostrategic landscape surrounding AI advancements.
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  • The concept of Mutually Assured AI Malfunction suggests that rival nations may deter aggressive AI advancements through the threat of sabotage.
  • Deterrence is a vital strategy to mitigate AI arms race risks as advanced technology transitions into military and economic domains.

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Mutually Assured AI Malfunction

The concept of Mutually Assured AI Malfunction (MAME) draws an analogy to the Cold War strategy of Mutually Assured Destruction, suggesting that nations pursuing aggressive AI dominance could deter one another through the threat of sabotage. In this strategic framework, if a state moves aggressively towards unilateral AI supremacy, rivals may covertly undermine its projects to maintain a balance of power. This approach emphasizes the need for states to be vigilant regarding each other’s AI developments, particularly those that could enable one state to leapfrog ahead and gain a significant strategic advantage. The paper posits that the potential for sabotage serves as a stabilizing force in international relations, aligning incentives for responsible AI progression among superpowers.

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