Multi-talented artist and hilarious human River Ramirez joins us for a chat about their journey to androgyny, the intersection of activism and self-care, and the Christian rock band "Underoath."

Hosted by Ally Beardsley and Babette Thomas, Gender Spiral is a quest to explore the modern experience of being a human in our gendered world.

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Interdisciplinary Furby (w/ River Ramirez)