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Episode 293: Exploring Security of ZK Systems with Nethermind's Michał & Albert

Oct 4, 2023
55:06
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Michał Zając and Albert Garreta from the Nethermind team discuss the origin story of Nethermind, cryptography research on FRI-based protocols, identifying security issues with Fiat-Shamir, exploring ZK malleability and aggregation, and building SNARKs over rings.
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Quick takeaways

  • The research conducted by the Nethermind team highlights the limitations and security implications of using Fry as a polynomial commitment scheme.
  • The Nethermind team emphasizes the importance of non-malleable proof systems to enhance the security and trustworthiness of applications like Tornado Cash.

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Research on Security of Fry-Based Protocols

The podcast episode discusses the research conducted by the Nethermind team on the security of Fry-based protocols. Fry is a commonly used polynomial commitment scheme in snarks and starks. The team explored the limitations and security implications of using Fry as a polynomial commitment scheme. They discovered that Fry is not a perfect polynomial commitment scheme, and there can be security loss when using it in certain scenarios, such as parallel repetition of protocols. The team aims to provide a better understanding of Fry's security properties and shed light on the considerations for designing secure protocols using Fry.

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