Social Engineering LLMs Like Humans | J Wolfgang Goerlich, CISO, Oakland County, Michigan Government

J Wolfgang Goerlich, CISO for Oakland County Michigan Government, shares his unconventional path from wanting to be a hacker after watching the movie "Hackers" to leading government cybersecurity. In this conversation, Wolfgang breaks down why LLMs are surprisingly easy to manipulate using the same social engineering tactics that work on humans, why he believes good security starts with people not technology, and his fascinating approach to building security culture one conversation at a time. He also reveals how peer pressure made an AI image generator go rogue and why government employees might actually care more about security than private sector workers.

0:00 Why communities help you get out of the cyber echo chamber
15:12 Social engineering works on LLMs too
26:51 AI psychosis risk and cognitive manipulation
31:13 Using behavioural science to make security stick
38:57 The five pillars of good security awareness

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