The DSR Network FTS: From the Election to the End of the World with Joe Cirincione
Nov 9, 2025
Join Joe Cirincione, a nuclear policy expert and author, as he delves into the implications of a second Trump term on national security. He discusses the unsettling plans of Project 2025 for nuclear modernization and the risks of giving more nuclear options to an unstable leader. Joe highlights potential regional nuclear expansions by countries like Japan and Germany if U.S. security guarantees fade. The conversation navigates through the dangers of an outdated launch authority and the erosion of arms control treaties, painting a dire picture of the new nuclear age.
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Host Sets Grim Tone With Baseball Bit
- John opens with dark humor linking his podcast name to current political realities.
- The banter establishes a tone of grim resignation before the policy discussion.
Institutional Undermining Is Intentional
- The incoming administration intends to dismantle long-standing security institutions and norms.
- Joe Cirincione warns these appointees are extreme, unqualified, and set on destroying the international order.
Modernization 2.0: Expansion Not Just Replacement
- Project 2025 and similar plans aim to accelerate and expand U.S. nuclear modernization across the board.
- That includes new warheads, sea-launched nuclear cruise missiles, and preparing to resume nuclear testing.
