
Power & Politics Carney, Trump and Sheinbaum laugh it up, meet privately in D.C.
Dec 5, 2025
Jean Charest, former Premier of Quebec, discusses the delicate balance of trade negotiations amid U.S. posturing on CUSMA. Katie Simpson reveals the lighthearted rapport between leaders Carney, Trump, and Sheinbaum at the FIFA World Cup draw, followed by a private meeting focused on trade. Goldie Heider emphasizes the importance of industry stability and Canada’s assets. They explore the complexities of economic realities versus political rhetoric, and fears of Quebec separatism woven into ongoing discussions.
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Leaders' Friendly Moments At FIFA Draw
- Katie Simpson described Mark Carney, Donald Trump and Claudia Sheinbaum chatting, laughing and touching arms at the FIFA draw like old friends.
- She reported they then had a private 45-minute meeting with no staff, suggesting candid conversation away from aides.
Smile Masking A Bitter Trade War
- The public cordiality masked a fraught trade reality: friendly body language amid a bitter, ongoing trade war.
- Katie Simpson warned the optics didn't erase the deep tensions over tariffs and USMCA renewal.
Be Patient Before Accepting A Deal
- Experts advised Canada to be patient and avoid rushing into a poor trade deal during USMCA review.
- Steve Verhul and others urged delaying for better conditions rather than accepting a quick, weak outcome.

