Lex Fridman Podcast

#482 – Pavel Durov: Telegram, Freedom, Censorship, Money, Power & Human Nature

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Oct 1, 2025
Pavel Durov, the founder and CEO of Telegram, is a fiercely independent champion of privacy and free speech. In this engaging conversation, he shares his views on the philosophy of freedom over money and discusses the importance of discipline and abstaining from distractions like phones and alcohol. Durov recounts his arrest in France and the challenges of content moderation amid political pressures. He also touches on the potential threats to Telegram’s access and the importance of monetary freedom through Bitcoin, emphasizing resilience in an increasingly regulated world.
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INSIGHT

Freedom Enables Contribution

  • Early exposure to free societies taught Pavel that freedom enables abundance and contribution.
  • He argues freedom outranks money because it allows people to create and share value.
ADVICE

Reject Short-Term Addictions

  • Avoid addictive substances because they damage brain cells and reduce long-term potential.
  • Confront fears directly instead of numbing them with substances to build real social confidence.
ADVICE

Control Your Morning Attention

  • Remove phones from mornings and set your own agenda to avoid algorithmic influence.
  • Reserve quiet time for deep thinking and choose which information enters your mind.
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