Desus and Mero Talk Obama and Their Showtime Evolution

The five topics that Lesley and Dan cover in quarantine this week are:

1. HBO Max's fourth-quarter subscriber gains (4:47)
2. TV world loses two icons this week (13:19)
3. Pandemic causes lackluster TV premiere lineup (26:10)
4. Showrunner Spotlight: Desus Nice and The Kid Mero ('Desus & Mero') (36:01)
5. Critics Corner (1:20:26)

Welcome to TV's Top 5! Each episode features The Hollywood Reporter's West Coast TV Editor Lesley Goldberg and Chief TV Critic Daniel Fienberg breaking down the latest industry headlines. The podcast is broken into five segments, offering a deep-dive analysis of the latest TV news and a critical look at current and upcoming shows. Every episode of the weekly podcast includes an in-depth interview with one of the industry's most powerful showrunners or an up-and-coming new voice. Have an industry question you’d like to hear us address in a Mailbag segment? Email us at TVsTop5@THR.com. Stay tuned for future episodes and be sure to subscribe.

Hosted by: Lesley Goldberg and Daniel Fienberg

Produced by: Matthew Whitehurst

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