Charlie Hu is the Co-Founder of Bitlayer. In this conversation we talk about bitcoin, current state of DeFi, why it’s bringing together Asian retail and Western institutions, evaluating TVL as a metric, what Bitlayer is building, and the potential future for bitcoin ETF staking?

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0:54 - Intro
2:00 - Bringing Asian retail investors and Western institutions together
6:39 - Takeaways from Vietnam
8:30 - Current state of DeFi
11:24 - What does Bitcoin DeFi mean?
24:06 - Bitlayer business
30:01 - Bitcoin ETF staking
32:27 - Bitcoin as a productive vs non-productive asset
37:59 - Is ‘Total Value Locked’ a good metric?
40:28 - Where to find Charlie and Bitlayer

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