Less than two weeks from VOUSCon, Mature Me: On The Move continues with bestselling author and leadership coach Jon Gordon.

In this episode, Rich sits down with Jon—a voice who has deeply shaped his leadership journey.

Long before the bestselling books and leadership conferences, Jon was a husband on the verge of losing his marriage. That breaking point led him to Jesus… to daily gratitude walks… and eventually to writing The Energy Bus—a book that was rejected 30 times before becoming a global phenomenon.

Together, they unpack the long road to purpose—what it really takes to lead with impact. From team culture to personal calling, and Jon’s latest release The 7 Commitments of a Great Team… it all comes back to three core values: Love. Serve. Care.

This conversation is a powerful reminder that it’s not about what we can do—but what God can do through us.

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