The Federal Drive with Terry Gerton More than 3,600 feds get notice their shutdown RIFs are rescinded
Nov 24, 2025
Jory Heckman, a seasoned reporter for Federal News Network specializing in federal personnel issues, breaks down the latest on rescinded shutdown-era layoffs. He discusses how some agencies, including the SBA, initially told laid-off employees to return, only to reverse their decision. Employees argue that the language in the continuing resolution could nullify these layoffs, potentially leading to lawsuits. Heckman also highlights varying agency responses, including the IRS and Education's rescinding actions, and the implications of previous court rulings. The debate on whether to fight for reinstatement continues.
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SBA's Rapid Reversal On RIF Rescissions
- The SBA told 77 employees their RIFs were rescinded, then reversed course and said separations would proceed.
- Ambiguous shutdown CR language and agency interpretation created conflicting outcomes for those workers.
Vague CR Language Fuels Dispute
- The continuing resolution says any RIF "proposed, noticed, initiated, executed, implemented, or otherwise taken" between Oct 1 and enactment has no force.
- Employees argue separations during the shutdown fall under that wording while SBA argues pre-shutdown notices exclude them.
Consider Legal Options For Disputes
- Employees should consider escalating disputes to the courts if agencies refuse reinstatement.
- Expect agency positions to hold sway unless workers are willing to pursue litigation.