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Dagger is focused on solving the problem of the fragmented and inefficient delivery process in the software supply chain. It aims to provide a unified platform that connects all the different pipelines and environments involved in the application delivery process. By using containers and a DAG (Directed Acyclic Graph) structure, Dagger allows for the standardization and orchestration of builds, tests, deployments, and other workflows across multiple environments. With the goal of unifying CI and dev environments, Dagger offers a way to converge these environments and shift automation processes earlier in the development process, enabling developers to script and program their software supply chain.
While GitHub Actions and Dagger serve different purposes, they can be used together to optimize software development pipelines. GitHub Actions can be used as a trigger to initiate Dagger's standardized and portable pipelines. By leveraging Dagger's capabilities to package pipelines into containers and interconnect them using a DAG structure, teams can unify their CI and dev environments, enabling easier collaboration and reducing drift. GitHub Actions' functionality integrates seamlessly with Dagger's scriptable and portable environment, simplifying the automation and delivery process in the software supply chain.
Drawing an analogy to a factory setup, Dagger aims to address the manufacturing problem in the software supply chain. This involves standardizing how components are assembled and managing the interdependencies between different steps. By providing an API based on GraphQL and SDKs for various programming languages, Dagger allows developers to script and program their pipelines, following a DAG structure. This unifies and converges the diverse environments involved in the software development process, empowering developers to optimize and streamline their code delivery and deployment processes.
While containers, such as Docker, have become a backbone of the software delivery process, they cannot completely standardize the entire software supply chain. Different compute technologies and software variations make it impossible for a single container format to dominate the entire industry. Dagger recognizes this limitation and fills the manufacturing gap in the software supply chain, providing a solution that is not solely dependent on containers. Dagger enables the scripting and orchestration of pipelines within a robust DAG structure, allowing developers to streamline their delivery processes and interconnect diverse environments for optimized software assembly.
The podcast episode discusses the shift in thinking from a centralized software factory model to a decentralized one. The traditional manufacturing analogy of a centralized factory that produces cars and ships them to customers is contrasted with the idea of shipping a factory to each customer, similar to the food synthesizer in Star Trek. This concept emphasizes the ability to customize and standardize software factories, allowing for more efficient and flexible development and deployment processes.
The episode explores how Dagger, a software tool, addresses the challenge of standardizing the supply chain and deploying software. It allows users to create customized robotic arms (representing specific steps in the software development process) within a standardized factory (representing the overall development and deployment environment). Dagger provides the flexibility for teams to use different build tools, package managers, and deployment targets, while still standardizing the overall factory operations. By integrating Dagger into existing workflows, teams can achieve greater customization and automation, solving complex challenges in the delivery and deployment of software.
The podcast episode highlights the transition from artisanal software development workflows to industrialized software factories using Dagger. Similar to industrial design principles, Dagger helps teams evolve their software factories alongside the growth and complexity of their products. It offers the ability to customize different steps within the factory while maintaining standardized processes. This customizability allows teams to optimize specific aspects of their development and deployment pipelines while benefiting from standardized components and interfaces. Dagger's goal is to provide a last-mile technology that supports the customization and automation of software development processes, enabling teams to scale and industrialize their workflows effectively.
This week we’re joined by Solomon Hykes, the creator of Docker. Now he’s back with his next big thing called Dagger — CI/CD as code that runs anywhere. We’re users of Dagger so check out our codebase if you want to see how it works. On today’s show Solomon takes us back to the days of Docker, what it was like on that 10 year journey, his transition from Docker to Dagger, Dagger’s community-led growth model, their focus on open source and community, how it works, and even a cameo from Kelsey Hightower to explain how Dagger works.
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