The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 194 - Human Element Series - RUSE: Corporate Spies as a Service with Robert Kerbeck
Today we are joined by Robert Kerbeck. Robert is the founder of the Malibu Writers Circle, a lifetime member of the Actors Studio, and a graduate of the University of Pennsylvania. His true crime memoir about his secret career as a corporate spy, RUSE: Lying the American Dream from Hollywood to Wall Street, has received praise from Frank Abagnale and former CIA Agent Valerie Plame. Kerbeck’s writing has appeared in numerous publications including the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Chronicle, Los Angeles Magazine, and Lithub’s Crime Reads. [Jan 25, 2023]
00:00 – Intro
00:26 – Intro Links
- Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/
- Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/
- Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/
- Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/
- Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb
- CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/
02:21 – Robert Kerbeck Intro
03:28 – How do you "stumble" into becoming a corporate spy?
06:51 – Going inside: This is Social Engineering
08:29 – Very Dark Grey
10:33 – We Need to Talk About Kevin
11:25 – Making OJ look good
15:25 – Doing what LinkedIn can't
19:54 – Making the lie sound better than the truth
21:13 – Setting boundaries
22:21 – Hacking people is easy
24:46 – Some need convincing
26:08 – Ransomware
28:38 – No spies here!
30:03 – This isn't going away!
31:08 – Knock, knock
32:35 – Hacking the human
34:59 – Find Robert Kerbeck online
- Website: www.robertkerbeck.com
35:43 – Who do you consider your mentors?
- Professor from Freshman Year
- Frank Abagnale
36:49 – Book Recommendations:
- Fair Game – Valerie Plame
- Catch Me If You Can – Frank Abagnale
- RUSE – Robert Kerbeck
38:00 – Guest Wrap Up
38:26 – Outro