One of the goals of DOGE was to get rid of the “silos” that keep government agencies from sharing freely amongst themselves efficiently and instead organize data using tools offered by companies like Palantir. The thing is, a lot of those silos are there by design, and removing them could be a nightmare for privacy advocates.

Guest: Sheera Frenkel, tech reporter for the New York Times.

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Bonus Episode: Dr. Susan Flinn on the Significant Others Within Ourselves