The Cloudcast The State of Cloud Native for 2025
Jun 11, 2025
Tobi Knaup, VP/GM of Cloud Native at Nutanix, dives into the cloud-native ecosystem's evolution and the vital intersection of AI and Kubernetes. He discusses the growing mainstream adoption of Kubernetes and the critical need for resiliency in enterprise environments. Tobi highlights challenges in managing stateful workloads and the importance of aligning technical implementations with business needs. The conversation also touches on data governance concerns, especially among European users facing different compliance frameworks.
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Toby's Cloud Native Journey
- Toby Knaup co-founded Mesosphere, later called Day2IQ, and was deeply involved in cloud-native technologies since 2013. - Mesosphere was built around Apache Mesos, a container orchestration platform predating Kubernetes by 5 years.
Cloud Native Still Early
- Kubernetes and cloud native tech are still early in enterprise adoption despite over a decade of development. - The industry is progressing toward resilient, scalable, and mission-critical workload support.
AI to Simplify Kubernetes
- Kubernetes APIs are low-level, requiring higher-level abstractions to express business needs more easily. - AI can automate translating business goals into Kubernetes configs, simplifying deployment and management.