Conversations Conversations #14 - Jeremy Johnson
Hey Eclectic Spacewalkers!
Last month we had the pleasure of having a conversation with Jeremy Johnson.
Jeremy is a scholar, writer, publisher (Revelore Press), editor (Integral Leadership Review), integral philosopher, and the founder of Nura Learning. Jeremy is also the host of the mutations podcast and is the author of Seeing Through the World: Jean Gebser and Integral Consciousness.
Jeremy came to our attention, like most nowadays, through Twitter. Jeremy was a guest on late journalist Michael Brooks’ show and introduced us to the idea of Integral Consciousness. More recently, Jeremy wrote a chapter “Becoming the Planetary” in the newly printed Metamodernity: Dispatches from a Time Between Worlds: Crisis and emergence in metamodernity.
In the episode, we talk to Jeremy about his academic and writing journey, including the above essay and his book Seeing Through the World. We discussed ‘The Overview Effect,’ planetary consciousness surrounding ‘the noosphere,’ ‘living during the Anthropocene,’ the need for some type of species/planetary level myth-making to navigate the troubling and unforgiving waters of metamodernity, amongst a number of other interesting topics.
We thank Jeremy for his time, research, and eclectic mind.
We hope you enjoy the conversation!
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Timestamps:
- Who were Jeremy’s earliest influences? (03:25)
- Catalytic Readings: “The key, I think, is a reading that provokes; a move from an observer of distant mental categories to participant in lived realities.” (12:01)
- What is meta-modernism? What does it mean to live in the "Anthropocene?” (33:25)
- Kim Stanley Robinson’s Ministry for the Future, Timothy Morton’s ‘Hyperobjects” like COVID, Climate Crisis, Military Industrial Complex, etc... (41:30)
- Living in a technological culture yet most do not get a sufficient enough education or tool kit to prosper within it, Globalization vs. Planetization, and ‘Doomer Optimism’ (51:00)
- Writing Seeing Through the World and Jean Gebser’s influence (60:21)
- “Kultuphilosophie: wherein he describes a “phenomenology of becoming consciousness” (01:11:40)
- Marshall Mcluhan, Neil Postman, and Jean Gebser’s ‘Structures’ (1:23:05)
- Parting Overview Effect Answer: (01:40:25)
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More on Jeremy Johnson:
Seeing Through the World: Jean Gebser and Integral Consciousness