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In the Room with Peter Bergen
The Man Who Led NATO Is Trying to Frighten You
May 21, 2024
Retired Admiral James Stavridis and retired Marine Captain Elliot Ackerman discuss potential US conflicts with China, extreme political divisions, and the impact of A.I on national security. They wrote novels to show possible disastrous futures and solutions to avoid them.
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- Miscalculations in international incidents can lead to escalating tensions and potential conflicts.
- Future wars may heavily rely on technology, highlighting the importance of cybersecurity and readiness against cyber threats.
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Tension Between US and China Over Spy Plane Incident
An incident in 2001 involving a US Navy spy plane forced to land on a Chinese island by Chinese interceptors highlights the risk of miscalculation between nations. The tense standoff following the collision sparked fears of escalating to violence. Diplomacy eventually diffused the situation, but it left a lasting impact on naval officer James Stavridis, who later co-authored a novel envisioning a similar crisis.
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