#3: Jen Dary on Becoming a Manager and Taking a Break

This episode, I'm chatting to Jen Dary, a leadership coach, workshop organiser, writer and card-maker from California. Jen runs Plucky, a company focused on helping companies and their people create happier workplaces. We like that! We talk about the strange need for managers and leaders to spend time creating physical things, the challenges of moving into management and how much it can help to chat things over with someone who can't fire you. Jen is wicked fun, and a great guest. I hope you enjoy the chat as much as I did! Any thoughts, feedback or questions - just email me: hello@makegrow.co. You can also record a message in anchor if you want to be featured on a future episode. (I'm still working on sound quality - next episode won't sound like I'm in a bathroom or a record player, promise) --- Plucky: beplucky.com Jen on twitter: twitter.com/jenniferdary So Now You're A Manager: beplucky.com/manager --- Progression Pack: progressionpack.com Join the community: progressionpack.com/chat Me on twitter: twitter.com/jonnyburch