This conversation with Rupert was recorded almost a couple of years ago, when I had just started really going to non dual retreats and wanting to be directly involved experientially, the reason I sat on it so long is on the audio before it starts, it turned out to be a great conversation covering so many subjects around the spectrum of experience, from suffering through to awakening and what happens on that journey for people including healing from trauma, what actually is trauma and how we might point people who are suffering to their true nature. Below are some of my insights from listening back:

All reality is not made of thought
What is the space between thought
Thoughts are like subtitles
Thoughts do not describe reality
We give thoughts and perceptions power
The goal is to bring the mind to the end
Seeking = Agitation
We experience happiness when seeking ends
Once the promise of fulfilment starts, the mind ends
why searching for true nature will not end addiction
Detox is sometimes required
Habits are very strong
Distraction with energy usage is valuable
Seeing the role of thought in suffering
The recognition of true nature
In between 2 thoughts I remain
Finding out what we are not is a start
Recognition of true nature takes further curiosity
what’s left after awakening
The contractions of the body are stuck beliefs
You cant separate the mind and body
There is work to be done to realign the body
Allowing buried feelings to be exposed
This is not a requirement to awakening
There is a process of allowing in vedantic tradition
Trauma is buried layer of feelings that needs dissolving
You need an experiential journey of the body
Trying to bridge the gap from suffering to awakening

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