Labour MP Clive Lewis speaks to Ava about his friendship with former BBC journalist Laura Trevelyan, whose family owned more than 1,000 slaves in Grenada - including Clive's relatives.
Their new podcast Heirs of Enslavement sees Clive and Laura travel to Grenada to explore their families' histories and the campaign for reparative justice.
In this conversation, Clive discusses how the Atlantic slave trade led to present-day debt in Caribbean nations, as well as to the wealth of British banks and a certain MP, whose fortune derives from slave plantations.
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