

E13. In Gold We Trust 2025 - The Big Long
Jun 6, 2025
01:00:16
Return Stacked is back with a deep dive into the world of alternative assets, featuring Mike Philbrick—CEO of ReSolve Asset Management and co-founder of Return Stacked ETFs, and Rodrigo Gordillo, President of ReSolve Asset Management and co-founder of Return Stacked ETFs, both of whom are recognized voices in asset management and diversification. In this engaging episode, Mike and Rodrigo explore a broad range of topics, including gold’s structural fundamentals, bitcoin’s emerging role, portfolio diversification techniques, behavioral biases, and the macro trends shaping global investment strategies.
(0:00) Event invitation and podcast introduction
(2:30) Episode focus: Gold, Bitcoin, and precious metals
(3:03) Historical perspective on gold and its value
(5:34) Gold's market dynamics and institutional interest
(10:36) Structural reasons for gold's performance and public participation
(17:01) Integrating gold into portfolios and comparison with other asset classes
(23:27) Future prospects for gold mining stocks
(24:33) Bitcoin as the digital counterpart to gold
(26:13) Bitcoin vs. gold: Volatility and allocation strategies
(30:34) Return stacking in portfolio construction
(33:28) Rebalancing strategies with gold and Bitcoin
(36:03) Institutional adoption of Bitcoin and gold
(38:18) Behavioral finance in commodity investing
(44:06) Incorporating non-correlated assets into portfolios
(49:32) Developing intuition for emerging asset classes
(51:01) Audience questions on volatility and leverage
(55:28) Managing risk and avoiding excessive leverage
(56:22) Seasonal gold investment strategies
(57:00) Leveraging borrowing costs for capital efficiency
(58:38) Diversifying with return stacking across asset classes
(59:01) Contact information and episode disclaimer
(59:48) Closing remarks and next steps