In today’s episode, Kelley chats with Natalie Franke about all things Work+Learning. Natalie is an author, community builder, neuroscience nerd, and mama bear for small businesses, leading tens of thousands of independent business owners while fostering a spirit of community over competition. Natalie shares encouragement for taking your next step, whatever it may be, to live the life for which you were meant. As you listen in, we hope this conversation helps encourage you as you cultivate your own goals!

//Time Stamps//

00:00: Welcome

01:10: Meet Natalie

04:50: Failure from fear

08:10: Going scared

11:10: The war of “should”

17:10: Tactical takeaways

18:30: Resources

19:20: Final thoughts

// Resources Mentioned in this Episode //

— Natalie Franke’s website: https://nataliefranke.com/

— Built to Belong by Natalie Franke: https://www.amazon.com/Built-Belong-Discovering-Community-Competition/dp/1546017674/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1695060521&sr=8-2

— Gutsy by Natalie Franke: https://www.amazon.com/Gutsy-Learning-Brave-Boundless-Courage/dp/1546015469/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1695060521&sr=8-1

— The Rising Tide Society: https://risingtidesociety.com/

— Natalie’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nataliefranke/?hl=en

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Tu Fu translated by Marilyn Chin: “Song of My House Being Battered by the Autumn Winds”