

“Black or White”—Michael Jackson
Feb 7, 2024
Wesley Morris joins the show to decipher how to process Michael Jackson's career draped in success and controversy. They discuss the height of Jackson’s powers in the '80s, a tumultuous era in the '90s, and the societal impact of his music. The podcast covers controversies surrounding his legacy, unity experienced during his memorial service, his reputation as a revenge artist and thief, and the enduring popularity of his music. They also analyze the melodic aspects of 'In the Closet'.
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Monáe's "Smile"
- Rob Harvilla recounts being at South by Southwest 2009, captivated by Janelle Monáe's performances.
- During her set, Monáe covered "Smile", which Harvilla later learned was Michael Jackson's favorite song.
Village Voice Chaos
- Harvilla describes the chaotic scene at the Village Voice after Jackson's death, assigning writers and interns to cover the event.
- He details Greg Tate's obituary, highlighting the complex emotions surrounding Jackson's passing.
Collective Mourning
- Jackson's fame made him a part of everyone's lives, creating a collective mourning upon his death.
- Even those who disliked him mourned the "Michael Jackson sized hole" in culture, making it impossible to separate the art from the audience.