TURKEYS: Indeed, Randstad, SHRM and....

Nov 28, 2025

This podcast delivers a hearty feast of banter, starting with family traditions that lead to a hilarious critique of soccer's newfound importance in the U.S. The conversation dives into AI’s transformative role in recruiting, alongside a roasting of ZipRecruiter’s podcast quality. You'll hear about corporate greed driving layoffs and not-so-great leadership at SHRM. The hosts share a spy saga involving Deel and Rippling, culminating in a Thanksgiving dad joke that's sure to crack you up!

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Messi Makes MLS Feel European

Joel took his kids to see Lionel Messi play in Cincinnati and saw a much higher level of play.
He noted the atmosphere felt closer to a European match with flags and smoke.

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In this turkey-fueled episode of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys stuff themselves like it’s Thanksgiving every day (because, let’s be honest, their content diet is already 90% gravy) with a little help from their friends - J.T. O'Donnell, Allyn Baily, Mo' Clough, Julie Sowash and Michelle Meehan.

They kick things off by swapping heartwarming family traditions—like which uncle still thinks “pass the stuffing” is code for “pass the political hot takes”—before pivoting to the real national religion: soccer finally mattering in America now that Lionel Messi has descended from Mount Olympus to sprinkle GOAT dust on MLS fields.

From there, it’s straight into the AI Thunderdome, where the gang swing the banter hammer at every shiny new model like they’re judging a middle-school science fair on bath salts. They roast ZipRecruiter’s podcast so hard you’ll smell burnt Phil from here, expose the shameless corporate-welfare grift masquerading as “HR innovation,” and deliver a fantasy-football update that’s equal parts trash talk and emotional damage.

They also review Indeed’s latest product (spoiler: it’s a feature, not a miracle), reenact actual spy-vs-spy drama happening right now in HR tech like it’s a Jason Bourne movie but with worse expense reports, and wrap the whole glorious mess with a Thanksgiving dad joke so corny it should come with its own butter sculpture.

Grab a plate, loosen the belt, and hit play—you’ll laugh, you’ll cry (from laughter), and you’ll never look at cranberry sauce the same way again.

Chapters 00:00 - Thanksgiving Traditions and Family Gatherings 03:57 - The Rise of Football and Sports Culture 05:13 - AI Innovations and Competitive Landscape 08:40 - Fantasy Football Highlights and Insights 10:11 - Critique of ZipRecruiter's Podcast 13:02 - Jive Turkey Awards and Industry Commentary 14:25 - Introduction and Call to Action 14:50 - Dystopian CEO Behavior and AI Layoffs 15:47 - Corporate Welfare and Job Losses 17:58 - Indeed Connect: A New Product Review 21:57 - The Broken Indeed Model 22:57 - AI's Impact on Job Security 25:12 - Marketing in the Recruitment Space 27:53 - The Jive Turkey Award: A Spy Story 31:48 - C'mon, you know, Dad Joke time!