The New Founding Podcast

What happens if we lose? - Curtis Yarvin, Ron Dodson | #71

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Oct 17, 2025
Curtis Yarvin, a political theorist and creator of Urbit, shares his insights on governance and the concept of the 'Cathedral.' He discusses the implications of recent reductions in force in Washington and warns of significant demographic changes in America. Ron Dodson, CEO and portfolio manager, adds a financial and theological perspective, exploring the motivations behind progressive ideologies. Together, they examine the seriousness of Antifa as a domestic threat, the authenticity of political faith, and survival strategies for conservatives in a challenging political landscape.
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INSIGHT

Small Moves Become The Limit

  • Small, incremental actions set the ceiling for what an administration can achieve and become the limit they negotiate down from.
  • To assert real executive control you must exercise maximal unilateral power rather than symbolic gestures.
ADVICE

Design A New Administrative Structure

  • If you inherit a broken administrative state, design a new government and pull in useful assets from the old regime rather than merely tinkering.
  • Spin up needed agencies, kill roles the old regime shouldn't have, and replace misaligned functions decisively.
ANECDOTE

Yale Debate Loss On Ending Democracy

  • Curtis recounts debating at Yale and losing 60–40 on ending democracy, showing elite resistance to radical change.
  • He used aggressive rhetoric knowing debate votes reflect campus predispositions, not objective truth.
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