Subscribe on Patreon and hear this week's full patron-exclusive episode here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/91950097 Beatrice and Abby speak with epidemiologist Ellie Murray about how the many arguments against masking tend to repeat the same set of misunderstandings about how population health works and who health interventions are for. We also discuss why universal masking is so effective, the issues with dropping mask mandates in healthcare settings in particular, and how dynamics within the field of public health left space open for the social production of the ‘end’ of the pandemic. Get Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism Runtime 1:44:13, 30 October 2023 🧬